maricopasem wrote:I have seen quite a few posts that have to do with blue cards, Scoutmaster signatures, etc. In practically every one phrases like "official rule" pop up. I've even seen someone say that as a MB counselor they would not sign off on any requirements completed prior to acquiring a signed blue card. Not only does that not "feel" right, but I cannot find any "official rule" that says that is required.
From A Guide to Merit Badge Counseling (No. 34532A)
What's My Responsibility?
Your task is to satisfy yourself that each Scout who comes to you meets all the requirements for the merit badge. In this sense you are an examiner, though your larger opportunity lies in coaching-helping the Scout meet the challenge of the requirements and making him aware of the deeper aspects of the subject through your knowledge and experience.
What Do I Agree to Do?
As a merit badge counselor, I agree to
Follow the requirements of the merit badge, making no deletions or additions, ensuring that the advancement standards are fair and uniform for all Scouts.
Have a buddy present with each Scout at all instructional sessions.
Renew my registration as a merit badge counselor annually if I plan to continue serving as a merit badge counselor.
Requirements. You are expected to meet the requirements as they are stated -- no more and no less. You are expected to do exactly what is stated in the requirements. If it says "show or demonstrate," that is what you must do. Just telling about it isn't enough. The same thing holds true for such words as "make," "list," "in the field," and "collect," "identify," and "label."
9. Show experience in camping by doing the following:
a. Camp a total of at least 20 days and nights. You may use a week of long-term camp toward this requirement. Sleep each night under the sky or in a tent you have pitched (long-term camp excluded).
maricopasem wrote:As an example let's say a Scout does a big project on Native Americans in school. He then realizes that the work he did on his project satisifies some or all of the requirements for the Indian Lore MB. Should the Indian Lore counselor make him in essence redo all of the requirements because he did them prior to getting the blue card?
What if a Scout goes on a family reunion and one of the activities is rock climbing? Let's say he does nearly all of the requirements for the Climbing MB while away with his family. Is it right to deny him because he did the work in a circumstance prior to meeting a MB counselor?
It just feels like a violation of the no more, no less principle. Maybe BSA should create a Bureaucracy MB. All I ever needed to learn about red tape and hoop jumping I learned in Scouts.
RWSmith wrote:So, as a MBC, if a Scout can verify (be it direct evidence, or a note from a reponsible adult) that he completed such-and-such requirement since the date he became a registered Scout, then I am obligated to accept it as such.
If the MB counselor will not accept any work done prior to the issuance of the MB card then the counselor doesn't have to.
WHAT'S MY JOB?
Your job is to satisfy yourself that each Scout who comes to you meets all the requirements for the merit badge. In this sense you are an examiner.
If the things he has done cannot be transported, he should present you with satisfactory evidence, such as a photograph of the project or adult certification. His Scoutmaster or Varsity Scout Coach might, for example, certify that a satisfactory bridge or tower has been built for Pioneering, or that the required meals were prepared for the Cooking merit badge. Your job, in addition to coaching, is to satisfy yourself that the requirements have been met. Question the Scout and, if you have my doubts, contact the adult who signed the statement.
When you are satisfied that the Scout has met the requirements, you sign his merit badge application.
RWSmith wrote:No MBC has the right (or authority) to require a Scout to re-do any MB requirement he has already accomplished as a registered Scout.
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